David2012 wrote:
Dennis wrote:
I paint with a broad brush but, to me, many Korean and Japanese horror directors seem to be some messed up individuals.
This is the most offensive thing I've ever read so far on these forums. You're insulting not one but two entire races, just because you didn't like and/or understand the movie? I really do not understand why you feel you have to say that many Korean and Japanese horror directors are messed up individuals. That is totally inappropriate and prejudiced. I get that a lot of Asian horror/sci/action films are very graphic, violent, shocking, etc., but Asians, especially the Japanese, do things on a VERY large scale, and I LOVE that about them. By the way, why did you mention Koreans? Battle Royale is a Japanese film, not Korean. Just throwing that out there.
Dennis wrote:
Interesting, if unbelievable premise.
That is why it is called "science FICTION", but is it really that unbelievable? The future in that movie is crazy, violent and out of control. The plot of the movie is, "If teenagers are so eager to kill themselves, SO BE IT! Get out of our way, and kill yourselves off then, instead of putting US in danger while you do it!"
In reverse order. I saw Battelship the other night with my son. I had no trouble with the aliens coming to earth, some of there weapons, etc. I had trouble suspending disbelief when a handful of 90 year old vets and a few surviors from a naval destroyer got a battleship that has been sitting in dock for 20 years undocked and headed for sea in a couple hours. When I do this when watching movies with my wife she usually comments, "What, you believed it up until now?" I had the same problem with Deathrace 2000. I just don't believe it could happen, I have trouble suspending disbelief at times and if I start off having trouble with the premise, the rest of the film suffers. I did get the film, and I think the different responses the charatcers had to the choice they were given was interesting. I could believe that some would commit suicide, some would try to figure out a way out, and some would be prgmatists and to some extent relish the chance. I just have a hard time beliving a few riots and high unemployment would push this through the Diet.
As for my intolerance, that is an interesing charge given your take on Attack the Block. I am basing my comment on the films that have been shown at the Horror and SciFimarathons. Not all of them, but, in my opinion, many of them seem to be more violent, more sexually violent and seem to relish in levels of misogyny that are not equaled by most American directors. That may just be a matter of sample size. More have been shown at the horror marathon than the Scifi. I am basing this my opinion off of movies like Tokyo Gore Police, Uzumaki and the one that was three short films, one Japanese, one Korean, and the other from Hong Kong, I think. There were some more at the horrorthon over the years, but Dave's site is considered a game site here at work, so I can't look up the names.
I think of Battle Roayle more of a horror film than scifi, but it clearly has elements of both. Battle Royale wasn't, for the most part, that gory, not any nudity that I recall. It was just the premise of children randomly being forced to kill each other that I found disturbing. That's why I have little interest in the Hunger Games.
The Korean horror films tend to drag out the suffering and anguish of characters but not usually with same ammount of gore that their Japanese counterpoints use. But they go over the top, by my way of thinking, and seem to relish in the suffering. I mentioned Korean because of that three director film I mentioned.
And we have had some films from bioth of those countries that aren't that extreme. As I said, I may be painting with too broad a brush. But from the sample I have seen at the marathons, I still find the films more disturbing on average than their American counterpart and wonder about the mind of the person who could come up with them.
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