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Author:  pogo [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Some Random Dixie Chicks Discussion (was SNARKY VS NOT S
Jack,
You are posting a hypothetical parallel that is in no way similar to anything that occurred with the Dixie Chicks. One political comment, that they later admitted was ill advised, but that they would and did not back down from.
In the narrow sense I was wrong in my overstatement of your lack of knowledge of country music. In fact, you probably know more about the old stuff than I do.

You are also, obviously, entitled to your opinion of a current music scene. But you don't know anything about current bluegrass, Newgrass or crossover stuff like the Dixie Chicks. Not knowing your tastes, my hunch is that you probably wouldn't like it even if you did listen. Fine. If you anchored your point on your theory that "Non-political" bands should never interrupt their music to mention how they feel about the world we'd just disagree. But you really can't claim to know anything about a kind of music that you don't listen to. Or the series of events around the Chicks comment.
If you wanted to understand where I'm coming from, Wolf's mention of Dixie Chicks: Shut Up and Sing would be the answer. But why should you? Your interests are elsewhere.

Offer. I will never make a comment about Horror movies, about which I know next to nothing and am disinclined to learn if you'll focus your comments on stuff that you're interested in. Not how bands should act, but the reality of a situation that you don't know about & a music you don't like.
Besides, if I fulminated about how I feel about horror, the guy connected to Columbus who I know best, Joe Neff, probably wouldn't talk to me again.

By the way. You might be interested to know that a minor flame war started a while ago on the Boston Marathon board because one of the mainstays there made a sarcastic comment about Gov. Palin in front of the audience during their Thon a couple of years ago. Not a snark, but a comment made as part of a presentation about business of the Thon.

The flame war was, it seemed to me, a little silly. But it started out of the exact same thought as yours. That being, there's a place, perhaps, for political comments but an entertainment venue ain't it.
Author:  Jaws3dfan [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Some Random Dixie Chicks Discussion (was SNARKY VS NOT S
pogo wrote:
Jack,
You are posting a hypothetical parallel that is in no way similar to anything that occurred with the Dixie Chicks.


trust me I know but if you give an inch people will take a mile.

Anyway your right this is silly, lets get back to Sci-Fi Talk.
Author:  pogo [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Some Random Dixie Chicks Discussion (was SNARKY VS NOT S
Done.
Author:  WolfNC17 [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Some Random Dixie Chicks Discussion (was SNARKY VS NOT S
I'm glad this is over. I just wanted to make a couple of more points here and then I'm finished as well.

1) Ted Nugent does say his crazy shit at concerts. Whenever they let him play, that is. He says crazy political stuff all the time on stage about Barack Obama and how he should be assassinated. Is anyone buying a ticket to hear that? Or are they buying tickets to hear "Cat Scratch Fever" and "Wango Tango"?

2) If The Wiggles showed hardcore porn to their audience, they would be prosecuted for public indecency and corruption of minors. So I'm guessing they would never do that. That's not about freedom of speech. Also, if Bruce replaced the sci-fi films with Bette Midler films at the marathon, that would be a matter of false advertising. Not freedom of speech. The Dixie Chicks did perform their music at their concerts. No one ever accused them of not doing so.

3) Imagine if Kanye West or Jay-Z said publicly, "I hate Barack Obama". Imagine the shitstorm that would cause among rap fans. Do they have the right to say it? Sure. But how many of their fans (many of whom are black and support Obama) would rebel against them? How many rap radio stations would stop playing their music? And I'm not a rap fan either, but come on. Let's get real here. Their fans would consider it a betrayal.

I believe in freedom of speech and consider it a great thing, but I also believe that people have the right to be pissed off about what you say as well. People have the right to speak, but they also need to consider the consequences before doing so. And guess what, we also have the right not to listen to people whose opinions we don't care about. We need to start exercising that right more often.
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