The Ohio Sci-Fi and Horror Marathons

But there ARE people who hate the movie, and that's perfectly fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not everyone who hates It Follows will let the world know on some website, so there could be more of them. As for you saying you liked It Follows, awesome! I never said you didn't like it. All I said is, someone on the board said it was sloppy. I couldn't remember their name but I didn't want to bother getting their name because I didn't want to seem like a bully. Lastly, I stand by what I said. Movies WERE NOT made to suit just you! If you like It Follows, FANTASTIC, but do you really think that any of the cast or crew of It Follows knows that you exist? It is merely good fortune that you liked it and not the sole intent of the movie. With over 6 billion people on Earth, there is just no way to please everyone. While a LOT of people love It Follows, the fact remains is, the crew of the movie didn't make it with a specific person in mind from these forums. At least most Horror movies are made with a specific fan following in mind, and not one single, specific person. You are one of millions or billions of Horror fans. Not all Horror fans are alike. Some like old school, black and white Horror. Some find it boring. Me personally, I love a wide variety of Horror, and it takes a TRULY crappy film to make me hate it (looks at The Blair Witch Project). One of my favorite things about It Follows is its simplicity. It's a group of teens on the run from a mysterious walking "being". Simple, but OHHHHH so effective!! My love for this movie is DELICIOUS!!!

You crazy.

Okay, much like the mysterious entity in IT FOLLOWS, this thread seems to have taken on a life of its own. So I've split the relevant posts into their own topic.

Oh, and play nice, kids......

Tell that to not worldsfinest. He is the one who engaged in name calling. LOL

To not worldsfinest:
I don't really know how to respond to you because I don't know what mindset you had at the time of typing or texting it, but I didn't want to seem like a bully. I hope I didn't seem like one. I certainly didn't call you crazy. I was serious when I said it is fantastic you like It Follows. I wasn't lying. All I meant is, when people make a movie, they don't try to please one specific person because THAT would be crazy. What isn't crazy is a person merely explaining this in as polite a way as they possibly can, which might seem cold hearted or rude since you can't see my face and vice versa, so words you read from me might seem "cold and emotionless". You probably responded to my last few words. I do have a childlike sense of glee when it comes to movies, especially Horror movies, as I'm sure you have noticed. I was partially quoting an episode of one of my favorite shows; Space Ghost: Coast To Coast. In this prequel episode, Harvey Birdman is the host and his sidekick tells him "My hatred for you is DELICIOUS!" I love it so much, I wanted to use it.

I'm just having a little fun. No hurt feelings.

But, OF COURSE I don't think movies are made specifically for me. I don't know if I know of anyone who thinks that.

As far as criticism goes (in a general sense, not in a specific It Follows sense), as I said a few posts ago, I think creator intent should come into play (when those intentions are known) when you're evaluating something, but even with that, it's still valid to call a creation out when you think it doesn't live up to those goals. Classic debate -- does the movie/show/book/painting mean what the artist says it means or does it mean what it means to me the viewer/reader? In my own art/pop culture life, I can probably come up with examples I've evaluated both ways.

A very observant insight into this film. By now, probably all of the regulars here know that I love to go on long rants or tangents about movies. If you enjoy reading my movie rants, I'm eventually going to create a blog where I post them all.

IT FOLLOWS is a good, not great, movie. I appreciated how it patterned itself on Carpenter's HALLOWEEN with a dash of THE RING and an overlay of Cronenberg's early 'body horror' films. And, it even winks at the audience about those homages with characters watching TUBE TV sets with rabbit ears etc. The story is about a disease that is passed on by sexual partners and the only 'cure' is to pass it to someone else.

Stylistically, it's fine, but the last act of the film is unsatisfying. The themes, though potent, never really come together. Still, it's worth seeing as a respite from all the torture porn and shrill shock-cut movies that usually pass for 'horror films' these days. My issue with the last act of the movie is that it simply isn't as strong, nor as powerful as the first 2/3. Compare IT FOLLOWS to its acknowledged 'inspirations' (if this were music, this would be more of a slam dunk case than 'Blurred Lines'!), it comes up short:

While it evokes the Body Horror of Cronenberg and creates a certain quesiness, it never punches you in the gut the way the best of the Canadian Director's work does.

The ending has a nice grace note, but it never really tackles the morality of passing on the 'disease' to another person in any strong way, as the ending of RINGU did. Or, the way in which the townsfolk in the first NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET shared culpability for what happened to create Freddy.

And, on a simple elemental level, Carpenter's HALLOWEEN has a drive and momentum that IT FOLLOWS' last act doesn't come close to re-creating. Obviously, Michael Myers doesn't have nearly the symbolic value as the 'disease' does in the newer movie, but, as a 'Horror Film' it picks up the tension as it goes along. IT FOLLOWS slacks as it stumbles towards it's conclusion. Part of it, is that there is a certain inevitability to how it will 'conclude', yet Director David R. Mitchell tries hard to follow the template of a typical 'horror ending', complete with the big pool 'climax'. (but, the savvy viewer should know that it's all much ado about very little). It also makes the (seemingly certain) idea of a sequel even more pointless than usual: It Follows Again? It Follows Yet Again? It's Still Following?

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I didn't understand your comment about Blurred Lines. I think the music in It Follows drove the tension better than any of the acting. Not dissing the acting AT ALL. It was fine. It's just the music was so powerful in my opinion. One mistake I realized is, (spoilers ahead)
during the pool scene. Why didn't Jaye get a gun? SHE was the one that the mysterious entity was coming for! Shouldn't SHE be allowed to defend herself? Instead, she was in that pool with not a single weapon. What the HELL!?

I wasn't alluding to the film score, per se. I meant, that with all the homages/rip-offs of Carpenter, Cronenberg, Ringu etc., a case could be made that IT FOLLOWS stole from it's sources more than 'Blurred Lines' did from Marvin Gaye! (and, I do think Thicke and Farrell did steal from marvellous Marvin)

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Ohhhh okay LOL Yeah, I see what you mean. I truly hope there is not a sequel to It Follows. I look at It Follows as a one shot, a "one and done" movie. I think they killed the entity and there is no longer any danger. That being said, I have a theory as to the origins of the entity. For the simplicity of this explanation, I'm going to refer to the entity as a female and patient zero as a male so that I don't have to keep saying "him/her", he/she", etc. I'm guessing that a teenage boy had unprotected sex with a teenage girl and gave her AIDS. She died of AIDS, then vowed revenge on the boy who gave it to her, but the boy eventually realized that if he has sex with someone else, the female entity has to come for them, THEN him. If he has sex with ten other girls, the female entity has to kill all of them in order, THEN circle back around to kill him. Being a ghost, the girl has the ability to change form, and can only be seen by intended victims. Now, here is where it gets confusing. As you all know, you can't "kill" a ghost because they are already dead, so how one of those teenagers were able to shoot the entity in the head and cause it to "die" is beyond me. Maybe it's a demon after all. Here is a quote from It Follows that sums up how such a slow moving villain can be so scary:

"When there is torture, there is pain and wounds, physical agony, and all this distracts the mind from mental suffering, so that one is tormented by the wounds until the moment of death. And the most terrible agony may not be in the wounds themselves but in knowing for certain that within an hour, then within 10 minutes, then within half a minute, now at this very instant—your soul will leave your body and you will no longer be a person, and that this is certain. The worst thing is that it is certain."

Quentin Tarantino weighs in on It Follows:

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/how-quen ... llows.html

I think his points are interesting.




(I swear it's not because he has some of the same issues I had ).

I REALLY liked It Follows... but, I gotta say, I think the single element that elevated it so much for me was the soundtrack. I wonder if, without it, the film would have been nearly as evocative.

I'm very much hoping that Disasterpeace does more soundtracks.

It's funny that you mention that, because I thought the same thing myself. I think without the soundtrack, It Follows would definitely not be anywhere NEAR as interesting, but it would still be fun to watch. A movie soundtrack is the electricity that powers it up. Without that, it's just words and actions. The music drives a movie the same way wheels drive a car, or maybe it's the engine..? I ABSOLUTELY!!!! agree with you that DisasterPeace should do more soundtracks. One last thing:'Did anyone else think of Kung Fury when they seen the title screen for It Follows at the end of the trailer shown?

Seeing as how Quentin Tarantino felt the need to announce that he dislikes Scream and would "have sent it to the moon", I don't think I would like what he has to say about It Follows. I find Scream to be a WONDERFUL movie that breathed new life into the Horror genre and got a lot of people interested in Horror again, with a fresh idea and a well known cast, and to dislike it is fine, but why Quentin felt the need to announce it to the world is beyond my logic. Is it really that important that we know how he feels about it? Lastly, because this article was posted just days before Wes Craven's unfortunate passing, it especially puts a sour taste in my mouth. Here is a link to the article if you wish to read it:
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/33584 ... sent-moon/

The marathon was my first viewing of It Follows and here are the questions I had. Some of which are ridiculous to ask, but none the less....

I, like many others, got a feeling of a social commentary on safe sex. I questioned the rules of passing the curse...



I understand that these are irrelevant questions. Having said all this I think that it adds to the merit of the film in that it had such a lingering effect as to make me want to continue thinking about it after it is over.

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