The Ohio Sci-Fi and Horror Marathons

I work only to serve The Secret Bread Empire. Send Kevin money now.

Let me dig out my Bread DVD. Hmmm It looks strange seeing the video via HDMI cable. To really serve the Bread Empire you must show Anorher Bread Film on an endless loop.

Whippin' out my nerd card here. I'm 99% certain that the new DVD is actually converted to anaglyphic 3D. Field-sequential doesn't work on the vast majority of digital televisions and polarized, well, isn't possible in the home. Also, the 3D transfer is not great. There are a ton of registration errors that lead to heavy ghosting and eye-strain. Projected on a theater screen, I could see high amounts of upchuckin' happening. There are anaglyphic film prints available. I saw one at a drive-in a couple of years ago. I'm not sure what shape they'd be in now. The film did have some of the better 3D effects of the 1983 craze.

Sorry to get off topic, but I would like to adress geekzapoppin. Why exactly won't modern digital 3D techniques translate to the digital image produced by modern televisions?

I have always wondered this, because they are both digital signals. Why do DVDs have to do that red and green crap?

You seem like you know your stuff and I am just curious.

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Aliens? Us?
Is this one of your Earth "jokes?"

For me the 3D effects of the Friday the 13 3D comes off just fine. I know that there are some defective DVD's out there. I did rewatch the movie via composite and componet cables and HDMI wins out.

The reason that digital 3D doesn't work at home is that it is accomplished by projecting the separate L and R images sequentially, every three frames. Then a device is placed in front of the projector that is synchronized in such a way as to polarize the L and R images. Since the glasses worn by the audience match the polarization of the projector device, the left eye only sees the left image and the right eye only sees the right one. The frame rate is so high for Digital 3D, that the image doesn't suffer from flicker like older, film-based, methods. Hence, little chance of headaches. Also, the glasses use a form of circular polarization, which allows you to move your head and not lose the 3D effect. That is an overly-simplified explanation, but hopefully it makes sense. Wikipedia has a pretty good article on it.

There are some home projectors that can work similarly to the theater setups, but they are expensive and there aren't many films commercially available that take advantage of it.

If you're seeing an old 3D film in a large theater, then a polarized, two-projector, setup is the way to go. It works really well. It's just hard to properly pull off. You have to get the projectors perfectly aligned, as well as have a literal silver screen in order to bounce enough light back. Remember, the lenses in the glasses are quite dark, so you have to compensate. That's partly why 3D got a bad reputation in the past. The vast majority of the time, the theaters weren't properly-equipped and the projectionists either weren't adequately-trained or just didn't care. When it's done right, it's great. When it's done wrong, it will make you vomit. Modern Digital 3D has solved pretty much all of those problems. It's possible for the studios to make digital versions of their old 3D films. They just have yet to do so.

Some of the guys on this board know much more about film than I do, so feel free to correct any mistakes I've made. I'm just an enthusiast, not an expert.

Remember that the 3D version of Friday 3D DVD is a conversion of the original Arriscope 3D format.

(Looks at watch. Looks at calendar. Looks at message board. Looks back at watch. Slams head into desk.)

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- Ben

I known the feeling. I hope Joe wouldn't release the movie lineup it will make the wait even worse. I hope I don't give Joe any ideals.

*rumble, rumble*
*BUUUUURP!* - Oops, sorry
*rumble*

No, that's definitely not ME ... I really do think something's coming!

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David A. Zecchini; Creature of the Wheel, Lord of the Infernal Engines
"Damnati Im Ludum" (VitruvianZeke@att.net)

thump thump...

thump thump...

I think you are just paranoid. That body you buried under the floorboards couldn't possibly be making any noise.

Will you ever have to endure another puny 14 hr mini-marathon?...

NEVERMORE!

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Aliens? Us?
Is this one of your Earth "jokes?"

damn you people and your teasing!

lineup!

LINEUP!!!!!