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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:36 pm 
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So, I've posted my full recap, complete with break-by-break breakdown of the trailers and ads from this year to my site.

Check it out!

http://www.comicheronews.com/?p=13476


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Come on, I can't be the only person who has sat down and dissected their memories of this year, can I?


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AEinhorn wrote:
Come on, I can't be the only person who has sat down and dissected their memories of this year, can I?


I just woke up!


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not worldsfinest wrote:
I just woke up!

Same!! :)


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Ok, here's my re-cap.

Edison's Frankenstein - I never knew it existed, and it was a pleasure to see it. Who knew that they made movies in 1910? Not this guy.

Frankenstein 1931- This movie is stunning. I've loved it everytime I've seen it, and still do. The sets & costuming are brilliant. Karloff is awesome. Clive over-acts, but in a great way. And I LOVE The Baron (Frederick Kerr), He cracks me up everytime.

Psycho - What can I say, this movie is one of my favorites of all time. I had never seen it on the big screen & was completely stoked for it. While it was nearly ruined for me, thanks to a insanely over the top snoring dude near me, it certainly delivered. This is likely Perkin's finest achievement. I'm not sure HE even knew how brilliant he was in it. The cast was great from top to bottom. Love hitchcock.

13 Ghosts - I had never seen this film. I thought it was just ok, much like any Castle film. I did enjoy it though, as it kinda put the marathon in full swing for me. The creepy homosexual-pedo undertones between Buck & Ben was hysterical. I will say the Ghosts were pretty lame.

Night Of The Living Bread - Pure awesomeness. I had never seen this short, though I've heard a lot about it. It was pretty dang great & funny. The Q/A was pretty cool too.

Island of Lost Souls - I was very excited for this film. I had never seen it & I must say, it was probably the biggest let down for me. It was boring & they mis-used Bela Lugosi. Poorly acted, in my opinion. Plus, I didn't like the direction in the film. I thought they missed many opportunities for suspense. I thought Laughton was a poor choice for Moreau, & maybe he & Lugosi's roles should have been swapped.

Dressed to Kill - I hadn't seen this film, in it's entirety, since I was 13. Back then, it scared the bejesus out of me. It was terrific to see on the big screen, and was probably my sleeper-favorite of the night. It was a wonderfully done film, in my opinion. Nothing chills, more to the bone for me, than a straight razor... *shudders

Martyrs - I actually planned on skipping this film, considering the violent content, but elected to stay. Unlike 'Irreversible', I was able to make it through the entire film. I liked the concept, and thought the acting was good. But, the plot was a let down. My friend made a good comment & I agreed, that the first half of the film was great, but when they introduced that a secret organization was behind it, and the grand scope of it all, made the film go from intimately horrific to a broadly boring storyline. The thought of some seemingly "normal" family, harboring this twisted tale in their basement, was MUCH more appealing, than The Evil Empire being behind it all. There were several continuity errors for me, which made this film less than ok.

Hausu (House) - This film was a bit over-hyped, and I felt it did not deliver. I found myself only mildly amused, hardly horrified, & asleep halfway through. Maybe it was because it was 4AM, but this movie under-delivered for me & was the knock-out punch for the evening for me. Considering the hour & the fact that I had recently seen the remaining films (except Robogeisha, which did not appeal to me), I decided to call it quits & went home.

All & All, I had a great time. Loved the trailers & theater segments. And though I did NOT survive the entire marathon (thanks to my aching butt), I truly enjoyed it & will be back next year. Thanks to all those who made it worthwhile!!

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Great Marathon! Lasted 24 hours 3 thons in a row now (2 horror & 1 scifi). I am really glad the horror is 24 hours now. The theater looks great. The chairs, back of the theater, center, were very comfortable.

Many thanks to Bruce, Joe and everyone.

Loved the mug, T shirt, concessions and the atmoshere.

Frankenstein: I didn't know 1he 1910 existed. I had not seen the complete 1931 for a long time, if ever, certainly never in a theater. I enjoyed it.

13 Ghosta: I am not a fan of this film, but i know many people liked it.

Psycho: Terrific. I've seen it many times, but not recently. It is a great movie. There were parts I didn't remember.

Dressed To Kill: Not a horror movie. But, I loved it. I had not seen it before. Tied with Psycho for the movie I liked best at the marathon.

Island of Lost Souls: Also a great movie. I had seen it recently, although never in a theater. Another highlight.

Martyrs: This wa a very depressing, awful movie. I finally had to leave the theater because I could not stand anymore. The filmmakers seemed to want only to portray very realistic sadism. I cannot imagine what their purpose was. It certainly was not entertainment or thought provoking. A minor point is that it did not have a believable plot. The sadism was however quite believable.

House: Well, it was a lift in spirits after Martyrs. It was fun but strange.

They Came from Within: I really liked this one a lot. Great choice.
It even had a plot.

Robogeish: I enjoyed this one I have to admit I sometimes wasn't sure which sister was which, but liked it. One negative: 3 subtitled movies is one too many.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2: I really liked this one. I had not seen it before. I like comedy relief in a horror movie. It was good to see Dennis Hopper.

Prince of Darkness: I enjoyed this one, too. I had not seen it. It was a good change of pace.

I really liked the variety of films this year. Overall it was a great lineup.


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Ok, here we go.

Frankenstein. It had been years since I’d seen it. Not an all-time favorite or anything, but a treat to see it on the screen.

13 Ghosts. Good fun. Would’ve been fairly dreadful without the illusion-o, but then again, the point is the illusion-o. Reminded me of Anguish from a few years ago in the sense that the only way I’d ever watch it is in a theater with an engaged group. Otherwise, I’ll never watch it again.

Psycho. Can’t say anything that hasn’t or won’t be said about it. It’s a masterpiece. My favorite of the marathon.

Dressed to Kill. Biggest, most pleasant surprise for me. Reminded me that DePalma is (was?) a talented guy. Gets dogged for his Hitch-obsession, but if you’re going to homage, do it from the best. Borderline parody at some points. Over-the-top tawdry fun. It was a blast.

Island of Lost Souls. Never saw it before. Great print. Laughton is almost always a hammy good time.

Martyrs. Hated it. Glad I had the chance to see it, but hated it. The conclusion felt false and, for me, didn’t justify all that came before it. Didn’t find it deep or thoughtful on the subject it tackled. Felt it to be every bit as exploitative as most in the “torture porn” category but was almost more offended by the attempt to intellectualize it.

House. My most anticipated movie and it didn’t disappoint in the least. Absolutely loved it. I look forward to buying it soon and inflicting it upon as many as I can.

They Came from Within. Cronenberg rarely disappoints. Great ending.

Robogeisha. Fun at points. Could’ve lived without it. Ass-swords are a rather impractical weapon, at least as deployed in the movie.

Texas Chainsaw 2. The only movie I slept in (about 20 minutes or so early). Not that I expected otherwise, but no one uses their inside voices in this movie. AHHHHHHHHHH. NAM THIS, NAM THAT! CHAINSAAAAWWWWW. BRING IT DOWN! BRING IT DOWN! AHHHHHHHH. Old man blathers. More CHAINSAAAAWW. Irritating, not entertaining.

Prince of Darkness. I’m one of the annual John Carpenter voters for the hall of fame, so you can guess my feelings on this. Not among his best, but a solid good time.


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FRANKENSTEIN: The 1910 version is an interesting short, they were already doing effects then that I wouldn't even attempt to do now. '31 is a classic with a good sense of humor.

13 GHOSTS: Fun movie, especially with the Illusion-O gimmick and the crowd re-interpreting the acting and dialogue.

PSYCHO: A great, great film, and so much has been said about it that I've even been beaten to "Can’t say anything that hasn’t or won’t be said about it." It was nice to see it at a marathon.

Also, the Bates Motel decorations in the theatre were very cool as well. The peephole wall was a clever feature.

DRESSED TO KILL: The awesome pay-off to the very long Angie Dickinson seduction sequence is the best part, but a good movie overall.

20TH ANNIVERSARY OF BREAD: Very fun movies, always great to watch with a marathon crowd, and I enjoyed being able to throw bread again.

ISLAND OF LOST SOULS: Another good movie, love Lugosi as the Sayer of the Law. The music afterward introduced me to a great Devo song.

MARTYRS: I had already seen this and thought it was good before, though I don't really have a need to watch it again. The previous viewing and my sleepiness did de-sensitize me to the torture sequence, I was just nodding off and waiting for it to end. Others around me were bothered. I'm not big on extreme films, but hearing the arguments pro and con afterward is interesting.

HAUSU: I'm not a fan at all of most modern Japanese films that have been featured at previous marathons (off the top of my head, the only one I recall enjoying is Versus). This one being from the 70s, I thought it might be better viewing for me... but turned out it was a 70s version of the movies I can't stand.

THEY CAME FROM WITHIN: Really good. The stuff about lumps in abdomens and puking blood is the kind of body horror that a hypochondriac like myself can really be unnerved by. Becoming a sex zombie, I'm not so concerned about.

ROBOGEISHA: Past experience has proven that I will not enjoy a movie like RoboGeisha. From the makers of Tokyo Gore Police, which I did not like. So I took a nap for the duration.

THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2: The movie that I was most excited to see on the big screen, I love this film and have a lot of great memories connected to viewings of it. I enjoy its kind of insanity and hilarity, the great characters and over-the-top performances, love the whole "Bubba's got a girlfriend" element with Stretch trying to use normal relationship break-up lines on Leatherface. Watching this movie is just bliss for me. With this and last year's screening of Day of the Dead, that's two of my wish list movies in two years. :)

And yes, it is a loud movie. I was kind of hoping for some extra noise with a repeat of the live Leatherface appearance that has been talked about as happening at a 90s TCM4 screening.

PRINCE OF DARKNESS: Kind of seems like an almost-forgotten film from Carpenter. But it's good and very creepy, and was a great choice for the marathon. I didn't realize until watching it how perfect it was for the end film. All the talk of sleep and shared "movie" dreams, Donald Pleasance demanding to know who there has fallen asleep (I raised my hand).

Overall, it was a really fantastic line-up of films this year and I had a great time, as always.


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Am I the only person who liked Martyrs?


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I liked Martyrs. Not for rewatching, but I liked it.


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For those who want to relive a bit of House:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/20 ... to=1x67349


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Warning: This goes on for while. I wrote it partially for this forum and partially for my blog (http://www.deadstaebler.blogspot.com), so the tone may vary a bit. But it serves as a comprehensive summation of my thoughts on the Marathon.

“I have seen it, but I don't remember this part. Funny, it's like what's happening to us, like the past. The movie never changes -- it can't change -- but everytime you see it, it seems to be different because you're different -- you notice different things.”

Bruce Willis as James Cole in 12 Monkeys

Early last week, as part of my day job, I screened Chris Marker’s La Jetee, which, of course, was reworked by David and Janet Peoples in their script for Terry Gilliam’s 1995 Willis/Pitt time travel actioner. Not twenty minutes before the screening, I read a Facebook comment by an old friend who had seen a picture of us from the 1994 Science Fiction Marathon in the Archives section of this site; coincidentally, he claimed to not fully remember the event pictured (our entry as the Bitter Bread Brothers in that year’s costume contest), that he believed that it had happened but felt like it was an episode from someone else’s life. The screening of La Jetee was a lead in to Hitchcock’s Vertigo, so I spent most of the week swimming in the hazy ocean of memory.

Which turned out to be entirely fitting, because one of the main things I was struck by during the recently completed 2nd Annual 24-Hour Horror Marathon (a.k.a. SHOCK AROUND THE CLOCK! a.k.a. the celebration of cinematic excess a.k.a. the back pain junkies’ convention a.k.a. this filmic thing of ours) was how even though I had seen almost every film in the lineup, I had forgotten much of what took place in their narratives. In a few cases, I had gone so long between screenings that viewing them at the Marathon gave me a new appreciation for some of their charms.

Take Psycho, for instance. During my first few years at Ohio State (way back in the mid-‘90s), I took at least three film classes that featured it as part of the curriculum. Subsequently, I grew so familiar with the plot, the production lore and the analytical readings that I declared a moratorium on future screenings until I had some distance. This weekend was the first time that I had seen it in its entirety since 2001, when it screened on Halloween at the Wexner Center. Viewing it again after all this time gave me a newfound appreciation for what a sleek machine it is, propulsive and almost fat-free in its plotting and structure. I had forgotten how much of the first reel is concentrated on Janet Leigh’s subjugation in a male-dominated world, how her defiant act of theft figuratively releases her from many of those societal strictures while simultaneously thrusting her into the literal arms of the law. As she hurdles through the rain during her final doomed voyage to the Bates Motel, the growing smirk on her face as she constructs the hypothetical panicked conversations of her former oppressors is a gesture of subtle triumph. The fact that she’s ultimately killed by a man plagued by feminine domination and Oedipal angst is doubly ironic. It’s almost as if Norman Bates is a creation of her mind’s worst fears, sprung fully formed on the world after she encounters him and forever scarring the lives of others after her disappearance.

And speaking of creations of the mind’s sexual insecurities, there’s Dressed to Kill. When I first saw this De Palma thriller ten years ago, I hated it, went along with the popular theory that it was merely an artily dressed up Hitch ripoff. Early in the booking process of this year’s event, we mulled the idea of complementing Psycho with Richard Franklin’s underrated Psycho II and Dressed; the former was already booked elsewhere(and you should check it out if you’ve never seen it) but I’m glad that we were able to screen the latter, because I gained an entirely new appreciation for it. Like Marion Crane, Kate Miller is a victim of a male-dominated society’s expectations, but De Palma amps up the angst by throwing the audience into the depths of her sexual panic. Upon its original release, the big shock of Psycho was Hitchcock killing off the film’s star after a reel and a half of getting to know her. De Palma takes that model to an almost operatic level (emphasized in Pino Donaggio’s lush score), as Kate’s nightmare world slowly encroaches on her reality, every facet of her sexual panic becoming manifest. Her discovery of Warren Lockman’s VD notice is a great comic touch when seen with a crowd, but it’s also the capper of a sequence in which a sexually frustrated woman ultimately can’t even find refuge in the realization of her dreams. And like Marion, she’s murdered by what is almost the creation of that sexual panic, who then infects the lives of others (casting the young Keith Gordon and Nancy Allen in the John Gavin and Nancy Allen roles is a particularly twisted comment on the Psycho legacy; the studly leading man becomes a nerdy teen and the good girl sister a prostitute…and they possibly hook up!.....hmmmmm…..Nancy (Mrs. De Palma) Allen played a hooker in this and De Palma’s follow up Blow Out…..and was Travolta’s slutty girlfriend in Carrie…and Hitchcock wanted Vera Miles for the role of Madeline in Vertigo but she supposedly got pregnant to avoid his domineering ways….uh, okay back to the topic at hand). As well, the whole film is a fascinating update of Hitchcock’s obsession with voyeurism, as everyone in the film is seemingly watching everyone else (even Michael Caine watches himself in a mirror when he’s sexually aroused!)

Okay okay, I could go on about these two films for days, but the Marathon was about more than them, even though they weren’t the only films to deal with sexual fears and repression. Of course, I’m talking about Cronenberg’s They Came From Within, another flick that I hadn’t seen in years and had thus forgotten most of (outside the barest of plot outlines). It’s no secret that Cronenberg is one of my favorite directors, so getting the chance to see some of his key early works at various versions of the Marathon over the last five years has been a treat. And while The Brood remains my favorite of these early endeavors, I was struck by how stark and spartan They Came From Within is and how so much of it perfectly prefigures the rest of Cronenberg’s career. The repressed high rise dwellers who eventually give in to the slug-born disease, the well-meaning mad scientist who unwittingly unleashes a virus on the population, the increasingly ambiguous gender and sexual roles…they’ve all become iconic characters in his later films. It’s a remarkably quiet film too, none too reliant on excessive soundtrack stings and the like.

But wait, did I mention something about icons? ‘Cause there’s no better place to start than with our first film this year. Mea culpa: before this weekend, I’d never seen Frankenstein on the big screen in 35mm. I didn’t even see the film itself until I was 25; as a kid, I knew about character and his legacy, but I always chased after the later entries in the series, with their dueling monsters or expanded casts. Needless to say, seeing this classic projected was a stirring and profoundly moving experience. At this point in film history, Whale’s chiller almost plays like a series of iconic images and tableaus, passages which have been so burned into the third eye of our collective consciousness that seeing them again brings a Proustian rush of recognition. As noted by someone else on this board, Colin Clive is indeed very over the top, but it’s an excessive performance filled with passion and operatic mania. And Karloff? What can you say about Karloff? I felt chills when he reached heavenward toward the light, shackled and unable to escape his dark world, so very frightening and so very sad.

Island of Lost Souls had a similar effect on me. It’s another film that I had only seen years ago on VHS, so I was fairly taken aback by how deliciously evil Charles Laughton is as Dr. Moreau. Yeah, he and Clive could go at it for hours in a ham acting competition, but they’re also both playing characters who have sold their souls in the name of scientific (ahem) progress. Moreau is as much a Prometheus figure as Frankenstein, although while the latter wants to hold the hand of God, the former seemingly wants to create his own godhood and his embrace of unholy power destroys any tether to reality he once had, leaving him the king and victim of a museum of atrocities.

Straying not too far from the House of Pain was a different, more human version of that (to quote one of the radio spots on the intermission comps) Mansion of the Doomed. When we booked it, Bruce and I knew that Martyrs would potentially be a divisive experience (although, granted, he was taking my word for it, as he hadn’t seen it until now). I was surprised by how much of the audience stuck with it, and by the decent applause it received at its end. I’ve said it before in this venue, but we’re firm believers that the Marathon can’t just turn into a nostalgia fest, that in order to remain vital it has to constantly push ahead and against boundaries. At its heart, the horror genre has always been about stirring primal fears, dealing with uncomfortable issues and unsettling the audience (see the Serbian Film debate elsewhere in this board for more on this). Domestic horror has been so anodyne over the last decade that most of the films which have pushed audience’s buttons have come from Japan, France, Spain, etc. Is Martyrs extreme? Yes. Is it for everyone? No. But I think that it might eventually go down as one of the genre touchstones of this first decade of the 21st century. I would heartily disagree with those who think that it has no meaning; hell, the Mademoiselle character spells it out in her speech to Anna. There’s a direct line between Doctors Frankenstein, Moreau and Hobbes and the secret society that tortures young women. All of them are looking to transcend the boundaries of the spirit and flesh, but the perversions inherent in their respective methods destroy lives. Granted, Pascal Laugier deals with this in a much more realistic fashion, but in many ways time has made us more accustomed and comfortable with those classic doctors, while the society in Martyrs still seems very gut-wrenching. Nonetheless, Laugier takes the greatest topic in human existence (what is beyond the vale of death?) and twists it on the audience: what would you be willing to do in order to find out the answer? And aren’t horror films themselves rehearsals for death, a way for the audience to vicariously experience the thrill of danger and death without actually going there? Seen this way, Martyrs serves as a metaphor for the entire horror film viewing experience, with us as a society who watch the deaths and dismemberment of people we don’t really know and emerging thrilled and (sometimes) informed.

I’ve gone quite in depth with these films, but I enjoyed everything in the lineup (save for Robogeisha, but I’m not really a fan of this sub-genre…films like Hausu and Versus are more my speed). I’ll readily admit that I botched part of the flier when I described Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 as being Dennis Hopper’s show. He’s great, but Jim Siedow is batshit bonkers; it’s like Tobe Hooper started the camera and let him improve for long stretches at a time. And no, the film isn’t as great as the original, but it’s a crazy good time. I almost wish that we had played it earlier with a larger chunk of the audience. I could say the same thing for Hausu, which I’m convinced would’ve played somewhat better if it had bowed around midnight rather than around 2am. Thankfully, 13 Ghosts managed to elicit the great crowd reaction we had hoped for with those two films. I was impressed by how many people raved about it to us afterward. And speaking of great crowd reactions, I was very moved by the applause at the beginning and end of Psycho, confirming that it’s still quite beloved and respected.

And ultimately, this crowd reaction is what much of the event is all about for me. I absolutely love being able to watch all of these films with all of you (I should write more about why some day), but my biggest thrill at the Marathon has been the enthusiasm I’ve seen radiating from so many of you during and after the event. It’s been said many times, but at its best this event is like a deranged family reunion. I constantly joke about (and with) him, but Kevin O’Brien’s continued involvement with the Marathons is always a highlight for me. You may not know it, but Kevin is longtime friends with our esteemed benefactor David Nedrow (who worked on Sandwich), our co-web manager and head lackey Dave Zecchini and at least half a dozen other longtime Marathon attendees, so when he comes back it enhances this family reunion feeling even more. As goofy as they may be, the Bread films have come to serve as marking points of the event’s history and one of the few direct cinematic realizations of the Marathon spirit. In many ways, they’re our home movies.

This family has grown over the years, and I was especially struck this year by how many folks that I talked to, many of whom I only talk to once or twice a year, seem like blood relatives. To Scott, Paul, Bob, JC, George, Carter, Xan, Chris, Juliana, Blanche, Tim, Geoff, Jeremy, Buddha, Kevin, Ralph, Syd, the guys who used to wear the bee headbands (sorry, sorry, I know) and especially to the esteemed decorators and good friends Todd, Rose, Matt, Shawna and Brian (and to many others whose names I’ve forgotten or don’t yet know) I say this: you make the Marathon what it is, a gathering of like-minded souls who are willing to take a terror-filled spin around the globe with each other.

The Saw is family? Hey, for my money, the ‘Thon is family.


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Am I the only person who liked Martyrs?


No.

Well, "liked" may not be the most accurate word here - but I appreciated it.

More in Jaws3dfan's thread on Martyr's - if I get around to collecting my thoughts on the subject.


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scottcoz wrote:
BeeDub wrote:
Am I the only person who liked Martyrs?


No.

Well, "liked" may not be the most accurate word here - but I appreciated it.

More in Jaws3dfan's thread on Martyr's - if I get around to collecting my thoughts on the subject.


My threat was obviously a joke but I still didn't care for it. And Joe why didn't you touch on Prince of Darkness?

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Excellent assessment Joe. As I said above, Dressed to Kill was the most pleasant surprise for me in the lineup -- great choice.

But no thoughts on Prince of Darkness?

Probably getting ahead of the game a bit, but given the recent Carpenter selections, might In the Mouth of Madness be on tap for next year? :D


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